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Heavy
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Topic: StrangsPosted: 17 January 2010 at 8:36pm |
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Ok dudes. I need some opinions/suggestions for coated strings.
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Posted: 17 January 2010 at 10:34pm |
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Elixirs. sound great and last for months even with my sweaty hands. You'll have to get used to the slippery feeling but worth the effort. Even when they start looking bad they still sound good.
Tried the DR black beauties etc.. sound ok out of the box but go dead just as fast as regular non coated strings.
Of course add IMO to everything I say.
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Posted: 17 January 2010 at 10:43pm |
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Just out of curiosity...why are you wanting coated strings? Just wonderin'.
I play Elixir's on my guitars, and DR B.B.'s on one of my basses (4 banger), but play flats (La Bella's) on my 5 (which I play 98% of the time). |
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Posted: 18 January 2010 at 2:42am |
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forget coated strings and get yourself a set of flatwound strings... they outlast any string out there... the older they get the better they sound... I used to use roundwounds coated and uncoated... changed to flatwounds and never looked back... The feel, the tone, the longevity, the accuracy when tuning... Flat Wound strings are the only way to go.. I converted years ago and run nothing else.. I play all genre's of music from classic rock, metal to lite jazz and blues... these strings handle everything!
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Posted: 18 January 2010 at 8:00am |
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LFB nailed it. I hadnt even thought about flats. To answer a previous question final deciding factor is string noise, but longevity, tone, etc etc etc.
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Posted: 18 January 2010 at 11:29am |
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Harder to get a hold of are ground-wound strings, but they give the best of both worlds. Rotosound do them. I think D'Addario do them as well, but call them something different.
I never used the DR's, a guitarist friend loves their coated strings, but it seems like the coating comes off very quickly. |
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Posted: 18 January 2010 at 11:31am |
Half RoundsD'Addario Half Round bass strings are wound with pure nickel, then precision ground, leaving the outer... |
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Posted: 19 January 2010 at 5:42pm |
If you after little to no string talk...Flats are they way to go. Tone wise, the do sound different than rounds, of course. They're not as "bright" sounding, but they got THUMP!!! Listen to any of the "funk" groups from the late 60's and 70's to get an idea of the tone. Larry Graham (Sly & the Family Stone), Randy Jackson (Jackson 5) are a couple of flat users from back in the day. |
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Posted: 20 January 2010 at 9:58pm |
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Thanks again guys. I used some nice coated strings 32 years ago when I "started" playing bass. Despite the abuse the strings took, they held tone remarkably well. Of course, by todays standards I would have changed them long ago.
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Posted: 21 January 2010 at 2:52am |
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Dont let the term "thump" scare you.. flats are punchy and deep with a rolled off high end, all which can be manipulated by your amps EQ if your running passive or in combination with your onboard preamp especially if you have a sweet onboard preamp.. you can get any tone out of flats... but regardless, they will always remain punchy and retain thier "thump" ... Flats do have a very good punch for rock, jazz and country... you'll love the smooth slick feeling on your fingers.. great for sliding in and out from note to note... I love how the round wound squeeking is gone and all of my work is quiet .. another thing I've noticed.. the sound guy that we had a while back came up to me shortly after I changed to flats told me "hey i don't know what you've dialed in there but try to remember it bc you have found a sweet spot there.. says I was cutting through the mix with any extra volume" Hell Yeah!
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Posted: 21 January 2010 at 4:25pm |
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Thump....scare me? Nyet!
I love the thought of being rid of the string squeak. Thats the initial reason I began to consider changing strings. |
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Posted: 29 January 2010 at 10:30pm |
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Ok I got the flats and they are incredible, except some idiot cut my G string too short. Im going to try rigging it up tomorrow so i dont have to trash the string. Suggestions?
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Posted: 29 January 2010 at 11:04pm |
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TIP on flats: Be sure ONLY the core wraps around the tuning peg.
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Posted: 29 January 2010 at 11:16pm |
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Who uses the G string? Just leave the old one on.
I once tried to save a few bucks when I had a short string, by rigging it, and I broke the nut. Definitely wasn't worth it. The only safe way I can think of is by drilling a hole in the headstock and moving the tuner down, assuming your using a 4 in line headstock. ![]() Crappy photoshopping to make a point ![]() Actually if you cut the top of the headstock to size it would quite musicman-ish. |
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Posted: 30 January 2010 at 6:48am |
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Only the core on the peg....good advice thanks. I had already cut and removed the old G, and somehow cut the new one just a little short of making a complete two wraps around the peg. I do have an extra G laying around that I will put on this morning. I was just hoping one of you weathered veterans had some magic advice OTHER thank hacking the head of my Black Beauty.
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Posted: 30 January 2010 at 10:22am |
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I've never seen a good way of bonding a string to a string, I mean you could try twisting an old one around it and soldering the twisted bond, but I wouldn't recommend it. If in the unlikely event you have a separate tailpiece and bridge, you could take an old ball end with a length of string, feed it through the new ball end, then back through the tailpiece, but not many basses have the separate tailpiece and saddles nowadays. For sure the playing part should be one unbroken piece, but it sounds like you've got a wrap and a half, isn't that enough for a stable tuning?
You could always do the new hole as part of a 4 to 5 string conversion. Weirdly, I saw a bass in Flores once, that someone had converted from a 5 string into a 4 string, and in the process, rather than using the existing holes, they saw fit to drill new ones, it was uglily done, and no mistake. Could well still be there. |
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Posted: 30 January 2010 at 11:50am |
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Yeah I just didnt leave enough wrap on the tuner end to get a good grip. Its not like I have never strung a bass before. I dont know what i was thinking.
Fortunately I still had a new set of DRs, so I stole the G from that pack. I also kept the new (short) flatwound....in case someone comes up with a magic solution. I have seen some ugly modifies myself BOP, and Im not great working with wood (thats what she said) so I try to sway from home made mods on the Fender. |
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Posted: 30 January 2010 at 3:15pm |
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My only thought would be it'll work on a 2+2 headstock bass or a shorter scale bass, so maybe you can find someone to swap with? If you know someone else that uses flatwounds, and doesn't have a Fender style headstock.
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